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SomeTechGuy
8 years agoHelpful | Level 6
With a 300k File Limit - Does Dropbox Really Provide Business Solutions?
For many many years, I've been a Dropbox Pro member. During this time, they decided at some point, that 300,000 files is the maximum they will support.
Now, I know what you are thinking.
The article hotlinked everywhere says anything above 300,000 files will have degraded performance. However, the problem is much deeper than this. The dropbox desktop application often crashes, stops syncing new clients - and sometimes stops syncing old clients.
I've opened multiple support tickets on this issue, on the crashing issue, on the sync issue - and I keep getting told by the support teams the same answer. They will not support me with more than 300,000 files - and they close the tickets.
So, I ask in seriousness, most businesses have far more than 300,000 files they want to keep available through cloud solutions. OneDrive, Google Drive and many others have no file support count limit - in fact Google Drive has some pretty sweet optimizations for working specifically with millions of little files.
Anyway I've spent the last month trying to get Dropbox support to address the crashing issue (we are at about 40% of the 1TB limit, with around 3 million files) and I keep hitting a brick wall with them. Fortunately, it comes at a time where we haven't yet purchased Dropbox for Business. Today, I cancel my many many many years old Dropbox subscription for favour of a new vendor - but I have to ask... what exactly does Dropbox provide for Small Business? Do they actually support more than 300k files for business clients? Because they sure don't for pro users. And I'd like to be able to make informed suggestions for my clients (we do a lot of consultant work).
I've had a lot of other issues over the years, including their support system based around Zendesk no longer sending emails and support teams blind closing tickets. I asked many times to have them address this issue as well - and they do not. Not to mention support tickets getting generated 4 or more times on submission to Zendesk. We've even had large groups of files vanishing with a Server Error 500 when trying to restore, causing us at one point to lose over 100,000 files. The cause was never determined and took almost 20 support requests with them repeatedly advising me they were restoring the files (after lots of apologies later, the files were still never restored). So seriously asking, is the business package really a business grade solution?
Minor update :
After 3 years of reporting issues and logs, I caught one of the many repeat crash errors in a debugger today.
The dropbox team needs to learn how to wrap their file operations in a try catch and how to fix their own server 500 errors.
After being refused support again, we left dropbox and I've never looked back
PLEASE NOTE BELOW: I have NEVER accepted this as the solution, nor do I agree with their posted response. It is factually incorrect, and dishonest, and they marked their own response as the resolution - which it is not. The right answer is to switch a professional platform. We currently have over 10 million files stored on Google Drive, and we have not had an issue in the 6 years since we transitioned. Dropbox crashed and would not run (as shown above and proven in logs) after 300K with their support refusing to assist once you exceed the "soft" limit. It is not a business solution, it is incapable of it.
I did not accept this as a solution (now fixed). It doesn't solve anything and is factually incorrect. At the time of your reply and this post, there is a baked in hard-limit in Dropbox that makes it unusable - and your support team refused to provide support to anyone with over 300K files. Nothing in your response you marked as the "answer" addresses this in any way shape or form. Wishing you had the answer isn't the same as providing one.
The right answer was moving to Google Drive and getting an actual business grade cloud based file sync solution in place.
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- 7C7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
it's crazy that absolutely nobody answered to this, neither dropbox nor other users.
unfortunately i had to quit dropbox because of this file limit, which is extremely annoying.
i dont think its that difficult to get control about and i can't imagine at all, that there are not enough people with this specific request out there. i had 2 million files online and lost almost everything due to this bug.
dropbox didnt do anything about it except repeating their standard statement.
i still ask them every once in a while about the status quo - but it doesnt look like theyÂŽre actually working on this.
now i`m with sync - which is great as in bang for the buck and file limits, but they lack a proper online search and little annoying details like that. and then again google drive has no proper file history and lacks a lot of features.
COME ON DROPBOX - do something about it! - TowerBR7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I switched to Sync more than a year ago just because of this ridiculous limitation. And I'm convincing everyone I know to change too.
What irritates most is the lack of response from dropbox.
- Jane7 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hey 7C & TowerBR, thanks for getting in touch on our Community on this discussion. I appreciate the time youâve devoted in sharing your thoughts on this matter, let me follow-up from where youâve left off with our support team & weâll take it from there!For starters, you may keep in mind that the 300,000 files limitation, is a soft limit and depends highly on the hardware specifications of the computer running the app, though some users can sync more files without issue.Just as an additional point of reference, Iâm just attaching these (#1/ #2) resources here that could be of assistance & could further clarify the rationale behind the issue you may have faced.I hope that this addresses your inquiry & Iâm always here if youâd like to discuss this in a little more detail. Thanks again!Mod note: edited to update link in post [last update 2023] - SomeTechGuy7 years agoHelpful | Level 6Thanks for chiming in a few years too late ;). This isn't true, your suggesting people can go above 300k without issue and that a support team will help.
The support time flat out refused, many times over a period of many months to even investigate the issue unless we got our sync count below 300,000.
When your company refuses to provide support - that turns it into a hard limit.
We use Google Drive 100% internally now. We pay for a team of 10. Both their Backup and Sync and their Google File Stream applications have been amazing to work with. We've since tripled the file count and data size and never had an issue.
The one time we found a bug on Google drive, we had managers and engineers talking with us. They provided updates every week, and credited our time until the issue was resolved.
Dropbox will never be able to compare to that. I've never felt so devalued by a company and support team as I did by dropbox. Leaving was the best thing I ever did for myself and my business. I'm very vocal about this and make sure to speak my mind on the subject with every client considering Dropbox. I've influenced hundreds of purchases to your competitors and will continue doing so for a long time. - TowerBR7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
SomeTechGuy, I agree with every single word you said, just replacing Google Drive with Sync and Wasabi, in my case.
I also continue to guide everyone with whom I have contact to leave dropbox.
- Elfreda S.7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I am running into the same issues, with Dropbox just closing my tickets.
I found them unresponsive and so disspointed. We have been with them for many years, and this is what it has come to. I would love to know what you all switched to as I am at the point to cancel my subscription of 70 users on the account. I don't even have that many files, 800K but Dropbox can't handle that.
- Walter7 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Sorry to hear about this Elfreda S.!
I've passed your comments along to the expert handling your case and gave them a nudge so you should be hearing from them as soon as they have the chance to fully review it.
Moreover, I would like to assure you that such sensitive operations are always a priority and may sometimes prove to be time-consuming. All cases are unique and there is no set timeframe for completion. Having said that, if there's anything else I can do from my end, do let me know.
Thank you and apologies for any inconvenience this might have caused.
- SomeTechGuy7 years agoHelpful | Level 6No matter what, unless you get below 300k they won't even speak to you.
We left for Google Drive (their File Sync is incredible for our needs, dropbox has nothing even close to that) and have millions of files - no issues. The few times I've had to use their support they escalated when needed and gave same day support.
We also use nextcloud for its advanced filtering capabilities. But, pretty much, Dropbox has the worst of the worst. The only one we ever found to be equally problematic was OneDrive. - SomeTechGuy7 years agoHelpful | Level 6Just to add, we currently have a team of 10 on google drive with over 1.5 million files.
We haven't had any issues since switching.
And we did internal testing of their service to 10 million files without incident. No unusual ram use. And the file sync is great for interns - it creates a new drive letter that exists only in the cloud and allows them to cache folders they care about. So they don't have to download the entire 750GB of data. - 7C7 years agoHelpful | Level 6
i've been running into a similar problem with sync.com.
i've been a early dropbox supporter since day one, always had premium plans, when they had their 2tb individual plan i was really happy, because thats basically what i need, done. nope. 300000 files limit - back then there was no hint about that, when having 2.500000 files online i almost lost all of them, because that thing wne totally bonkers.
anyways, i quit after that, and checked out sync.com - who had the same plan for less money, with no file limits, but a limited gui. their big problem was, that they dont have a search and you cant really download or share big files (because it downloads them first - and after that again - which is an absolute nightmare if you're on a mobile) and i asked them for two years why the hell its not possible to change or improve that?! and honestly i really dont get why those two companies (in my case) are not able to implement those features or get rid of those bugs. a proper business that has a dropbox account will likely exceed that file limit. i love the dropbox menu and file system and up to 300000 files its an absolute charme to work with. for now i've gone back to google drive, the only acceptable gui, file history and no issues with larger files or file limits. only downside is that their updates are linear, so if its uploading a bunch of files and you change something during that period and extensively copy or move folders - it might get little bit messy. but all in all - best bang for the buck, by far. and i've tried every f-in single other competitor. dear dropbox - the day you can handle this - please let your customers know - or your ex-customers. i really hope you can and want to change something bout those issues.
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