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ae2rigc
9 years agoNew member | Level 2
Ending support of public folder
Just heard from dropbox that support for the public folder is ending.
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As a result, we’ll soon be ending support for the Public folder. Dropbox Pro users will be able to use the Public folder until
September 1, 2017. After that date the files in your Public folder will become private, and links to these files will be deactivated. Your files will remain safe in Dropbox.
If you’d like to keep sharing files in your Public folder, you can create new shared links. Just make sure to send the new URLs to your collaborators.
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It is one of the most useful features of the service for me as I use it to get links to single files that I can send to people without setting up shared folders and requiring them to have dropbox accounts.
(Save file to my public folder locally, syncs, right click, get publick link, paste. Doesn't get any easier than that.)
It's also useful for bb style forum posts where you can link to images with an easy tag.
With the public folder support being removed, is there going to be an alternative solution to allow easy public sharing of single files?
- LGM - the issue is that people are abusing it and causing issues for everybody by getting the Dropbox domains blacklisted which cause emails to fail and downloads to be blocked by firewalls etc.
In terms of changing the extension, sorry, no idea how you would do that!
- Mark
Super User II
This isnt exactly new news I'm afraid.
And it was replaced a LONG LONG time ago by shared links which are pretty much Public Links BUT allowed in any location within your Dropbox: www.dropbox.com/help/167 (as per the link in the email)Edit: apologies I have received my email now. I believed initially this was a change to the way HTML files were rendered not that they were going completely.
- ae2rigcNew member | Level 2
@Mark - Thanks but the behaviour is different.
@narikaa - I hadn't considered the loss of already posted conent, that is indeed an issue
- Mark
Super User II
I'm not sure how its different behaviour in the examples you gave?
You can also create any link using the format above to get a BB-type link by changing the www. to dl-dropbox...
- joemckHelpful | Level 5
This is a real shame. Normal public /u links were superior to the new /s links. I understand that the old style of sharing was vulnerable to filename guessing, but I accept that in exchange for the superior convenience, and being able to give people direct links instead of links to slow-loading dynamic pages with poorly zoomed images.
Unless some option to use this is retained, I'm afraid I'll be looking for a new cloud storage provider in March 2017.
- Pablo f.6Helpful | Level 7
Alternatives from Dropbox ; If it is to help I can indicate the following:
Amazon S3 (Cheap and Easy) https://aws.amazon.com/s3
You just need to click on the file and choose the function 'make a public'
Google Cloud https://cloud.google.com/storage
You just need to select the public link option and click on it to copy the link
Canceling my dropbox account yet this month I suggest a bulk cancellation!!!
- anonymousCan we not just move the shared files/folders to a new location outside Public?
https://www.dropbox.com/help/9194
"Previously, if you renamed or moved a file or folder, any shared links to them would "break." This means that anyone clicking the links would see an error message. Now, you can reorganize and rename files and folders in your Dropbox without impacting any shared links to them."
Edvard
- narikaaHelpful | Level 7
This I fear is disasterous news for anyone (like me) who has used the public folder links to post images on web forums.
Web forum software, it seems when using the [img]....[/img] codes , accepts the "https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com......." format of current public folder links , but rejects the "https://www.dropbox.com......" format of current links from any other folder.
This means the horrible prospect of not only the loss of many years of input across multi forums (with the upcoming negation of 'old' links to the Public Folder) but the need to seek out alternate on-line storage for the future!
- LGMHelpful | Level 5That's a real shame.
I've been praising Dropbox for this very efficient way of sharing images in forums for a few years now.
There is absolutely no reason to give up the Public folder.
The only point here it to get some advertising for dropbox services through users shares .. really lame.
Dropbox used to be so clean and easy and .. well, let's find some other online hosting service then. - Scorpion66New member | Level 2
I am in exact same position as narikka having used drop box for years using links for photos on review forums. No way can i waste the rest of my life redoing all the links to photos. Cheers dropbox you just screwed up about 5 years worth of post + reviews for no real reason.
Not at all happy you seriously need a rethink on this :-(
- NFAToysHelpful | Level 5
Well thank you Dropbox for changing the rules after the game started. It looks like come September 2017 I'll be dropping Dropbox since you no longer will let me have the Public Folder I signed up for when I subscribed many years ago. I have years of public links in thousands of posts to dozens of web forums that link to pictures and short videos in my public folder. With one broad arbitrary decission, and without asking your paying custoers how it will effect them, you've negated my only reason for being a Dropbox customer. And you have not provided any workable option for myself and the others on this forum who you have placed in the same boat. I can't begin to describe how angry I am right now for this brain dead decision you have forced down our throats.
- Bob J.Helpful | Level 6Oh dear! No Public folder access even for Pro.
It started with no html access which did not affect me too much as I was using kml - BUT?
I support a number of systems to provide public access to some conservation work I do with Google Earth.
I maintain a small group of tiny.cc short urls to a set of kml files stored in my public folder. e.g. http://tiny.cc/WhTraps
These provide kml code to view trap locations and results and are updated frequently.
In turn some traps have links to image files of those traps. This allows the trap sponsors to see on Google Earth a picture of 'their' traps. This works really well.
The image files reside on another shared DropBox maintained by the trap owners and need to have calculable file names via a DropBox folder rather than individually coded file names. So the : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8532225/TrapImages/B23.jpg
rather than:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rvtdegltl863uz/File%2028-02-16%2016%2045%2017%20enhanced.jpg?dl=0
which do not show up in Google Earth.
I moved to DropBox Pro to maintain this a little longer.
My DropBox options are getting smaller by the day
In another project i have similar links to tiny html files so that a client can scan a QR code on a chemical bottle and get a quick view of its contents, and more importantly to access safety information using their phone.
My use of both of these now ends in less than a year.
What to do?
Bob J.- TedologyNew member | Level 2
Yes, if anybody has an option that is similar to Dropbox (especially the use of a Public folder), please do share. I realize this is Dropbox's forum, and I don't want to incite cross-advertising, but I don't think I'll stick with Dropbox.
Why? Because I don't see a reason for this change other than to stir up the pot.
- Alexander B.20Helpful | Level 5
I absolutely agree with the previous commenters. A lot of people used public links to post images to forums, mostly small ones, which do not provide built-in storage for images and attachments.
On our local community forum I've posted hundreds of such images and advised other users to use Dropbox for this purpose as well. This content is still useful and the loss of it will be a major problem for all our users.
I think Dropbox should rethink this decision and at least preserve existing public links as is. Otherwise, on 09/01/2017, many communities on the web will suffer from losing years of users' contributions.
- Mark
Super User II
Just as an aside this news is about 4 months old now (not sure why its suddenly gone out on emails to some again today) and as such they've staunchly refused to change it - same as when they dropped XP support etc.
I know it isnt what people want to hear, sorry, but would rather you had the right information now - that is this wont change so you need to start thinking about ways to mitigate the damage now.- Alexander B.20Helpful | Level 5
I received the email with this news today for the first time.
- h0ndreExplorer | Level 4
If this is true than there will be a lot of x-es instead of images on forums that I used in past years. I hope those x-es can be translated to "Courtesy of stupid ignorant decision of Dropbox".
- ScipiNew member | Level 2
I really have to voice my opinion in opposition to this. Not only have I used dropbox to host images and such, but I've also used it to distribute binaries, code, and other tools/projects on a public basis. With these changes, I would have to manually hunt down every dropbox link I've posted in the last 6 years and change them if I want to make sure people still have access to my programs and such. Dropbox is pretty much making the exact same problem that occured when megaupload was taken down. I can't tell you how many times I needed some legacy tool or the like that I couldn't get because of a dead megaupload link.
- RichardK26Helpful | Level 7
TL; DR: Please listen to your users, and change your mind about killing the Public folder!
Dear Dropbox,
I just received notice that you'll be discontinuing the Public folder feature next year. Could you please explain why you are doing so?
I've been using this handy feature ever since I first started with Dropbox many years ago. It's very convienient to simply drop in a file, and grab the URL with a single click. Using your "Share Links" feature takes more steps and is not as frictionless an experience.
I have over 300 files in my Public folder, and it would be impractical to manage all of them as shared links. The tooling you provide stinks. e.g. There are places in your product where it simply throws up a dropdown of all your shared items. Good luck digging through hundreds of entries for the one you want in a tiny little UI element like this (taken from your Support system):
Searching and filtering are badly needed, along with the ability to maintain hierarchy (or at least some kind of tagging/grouping) when creating / viewing / managing links. I already get all of this for free by simply using the Public folder and my everyday desktop shell.
One of the key things I use my Public folder for is to house assets for posts I make to forums, bulletin boards, etc., particularly when the system I'm posting to doesn't support images. I put the images or files I want to share in my Public folder, and post the link (or insert the image via URL) as content in my post. I used this as a convenient alternative to uploading the files to my FTP server. My intent was for these shared links to be reasonably permenant (at least so long as I pay my Dropbox bill).
The links are still out in the wild web today, and in some cases I am simply not able to update them. e.g. Often I would use TinyURL to obfuscate the user id portion of my Dropbox link (at least from casual users / web crawlers), and to provide a more human-friendly URL. Those links cannot be changed once created. In other cases I no longer have access to the forum system, or if I do, they don't allow editing of old posts. But the content is still up there for the world to see and click, and on a regular basis is still useful to the community I shared it with.
Now you're telling me that on September 1, the lights go off and all those links will go dead. Despite the fact that I'm continuing to pay my bill.
One of the things I hate most on the internet is Dead Links. How often has a web search led you to an old forum post that would nail down the answer to a question you have, if only the images didn't all come up as "Image not found"?
When I share content, I make an effort to only use services from providers I trust who will keep that content where I put it indefinitely (or at least until I'm no longer around to care). It was a big deal and leap of faith, moving from my FTP server to using your software instead. I trusted you. You broke that trust. And now you're going to make me look like a fool on every single forum where I included content from my Dropbox.
I tried Shared Links out when you first introduced them, and wasn't impressed. In addition to requiring more cognitive overhead by the end user to utilize them, and the poor tooling described above, I found the user experience for people I was sharing content with to be unacceptable. Instead of simply clicking the link I sent them to directly download the file, they are taken to a Dropbox webpage where they need to perform more clicks and/or suffer an HTTP Redirect to get at the file. This breaks certain workflows where my intent is to simply provide a direct link.
At one point you even tried to use my links to drive user adoption, by making it look and feel like the person had to create a Dropbox account before gaining access to my content. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but it was quite frankly a sleazy thing to do.
I generally share content in my Public folder with individual users or within small communities focused on a particular topic I'm interested in. I'm careful not to use the feature in a manner that would generate "high-traffic" or break your ToS. I'm just an everyday, technically-savvy fellow who finds your Public folder extremely convenient.
I'm sure there are others out there using the Public folder in various ways to make their lives better. In fact, a lot of people feel the same way I do:
I can only imagine the aggravation it will cause folks all over the web when September hits and the lights go out all over corners of the internet.
I urge you to keep the Public folder alive.
If I can't change your mind, then I beg you to at least give us an easy way to migrate all our existing Public folder items into shared links in a manner that retains their current "legacy" URL's.
Note: For anyone reading, this entry was originally in the form of a Feature Request which overnight got upvoted to a Top 10 spot on the company's tracker. After a mention on Slashdot, Dropbox expunged the request and interleaved the content into this discussion thread instead.
- JayjayHelpful | Level 6
Seconded!
Between this and the upcoming removal of the HTML-rendering I am seriously considering cancelling my Pro account with DropBox and just paying for my own (well, cloud hosted) server and using another sync app to keep it up to date. It would have more features that way as I could also host HTML content on it! - RichardK26Helpful | Level 7
Addendum for other users like me:
- I'm told you can turn shared links into direct links by changing "dl=0" to "dl=1" in the URL. It would be nice if there were an account setting to make that default.
- I realize there's a security concern around the existing Public folder, namely that adversaries can attempt to reverse engineer your folder structure and filenames to gain access to other files in your Public folder. I'm OK with that limitation (in fact, in some cases that's exactly how I want it to work). I simply make sure a) folder names in my Public folder are unique enough to make this unlikely, and b) not to put content in my Public folder that is so sensitive I would care if someone were successful in this attack.
I also contacted Dropbox a few years ago when they first "turned off" the Public folder by default on new accounts (2012?), to ask if there were other security concerns (e.g. from having my User ID number publicly viewable). They didn't identify any.
I think this topic hit a chord. There's some more discussion on Reddit, in the Dropbox forums on yCombinator's HackerNews, and around the web.
- I'm told you can turn shared links into direct links by changing "dl=0" to "dl=1" in the URL. It would be nice if there were an account setting to make that default.
- Dr-SleepNew member | Level 2
This is very distressing. The public folder is the ONLY reason I use DropBox. For five years I have been posting graphics and sound files to a public forum (involving musical instruments) by linking to my public folder. These posts are still available and are continually accessed. I will have to find and change five years worth of posts. Additionally, there is a document I have created for work that I periodically update. The header includes the words "for most recent revision, see:" and then a custom "tinyurl" of the link to the file in my public folder. I will not be able to use the same custom tinyurl for a new link, so if the public folder goes away, it will make a large mess at work. Please reconsider the decision to kill existing links to files in public folders. I can't see how such a decision "improve(s) the Dropbox sharing experience."
- RichardK26Helpful | Level 7
If you're not happy about this news, I urge you to make some noise.
Upvote my request for Dropbox to change their minds: https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Dropbox/Don-t-kill-Public-folders/idi-p/198003
- Matthew T.27Collaborator | Level 8
This is absurd and the final straw. Goodbye Dropbox. Pro user no more - I encourage others vote with their feet too.
- WayneMcKNew member | Level 2
Public folder deactivated??? Oh no! All the QR codes I have given to my past students are going to stop working. All the memories I have shared with them through images and videos as well as work samples that they can only access through these QR codes will be lost to them forever. I have no way of contacting these past students.
Very disappointing that this is being stripped away for no real reason!!!Wayne- AmbientguitarNew member | Level 2
I am guessing they (Dropbox) are being paid to do this.i.e. This now makes it impossible to share copyrighted material because if someone does, then whoever shares it would have to share the username and password. Which, I suppose, makes it easy to pinpoint who shared what and when and no denying it. And yes I am a conspiracy theorist lol!
- HiratoHelpful | Level 5
The old public links contained the user ID in the URL, and those would be associated with a single person.
Ambientguitar wrote:
I am guessing they (Dropbox) are being paid to do this.i.e. This now makes it impossible to share copyrighted material because if someone does, then whoever shares it would have to share the username and password. Which, I suppose, makes it easy to pinpoint who shared what and when and no denying it. And yes I am a conspiracy theorist lol!
And the awful new shared links, despite using a different mechanism, are similarly tied to a single person's account.
- yeswapNew member | Level 2
This change does not " improve the Dropbox sharing experience" as Dropbox claims. It creates hours of unnecessary work for users like me who have used the shared folder to post images, apps and other files all over the web.
I now have to track down every place on the web where I have shared a file from my public folder and replace the link with a new one, if possible. Most forums do not allow posts to be edited after a day or two and many blogs do not allow comments to be edited at all. That means this change will create large numbers of broken Dropbox links all over the web. Broken links hurt the web experience for everyone. Broken dropbox.com links send the message that Dropbox is not a reliable place to share files.
A cardinal rule of web design is to not break links. Dropbox, please reconsider this decision and allow existing Public folder links to continue to work.
- SirPspNew member | Level 2The only reason I use Dropbox over other cloud services is because I can create direct links.
I helped my girlfriend set up a Dropbox account a while back and found out that feature had been removed for new users, instead of a direct link it goes to a dropbox page. I then stopped recommending Dropbox to people.
Now it is being removed completely... does anyone know of another service which allows sharing direct links?
I've shared so many images on forums that will now be removed.- Matthew T.27Collaborator | Level 8
Of course, another poor decision made by Dropbox executives with an astonishingly poor lack of communication and absolutely no consultation with those paying for the service who are directly impacted by it.
I can't think of a single impressive thing Dropbox has done over the past few years. Let's list some
- Getting rid of HTML rendering in public links
- Nagging paying personal users to upgrade to business
- Refusing to implement highly popular ideas with virtually no Dropbox staff engaging with the community. Rather, we only see these unpaid "super users" insistant on playing devil's advocate and justifying objectively terrible decisions.
- Getting rid of Mailbox
- Hiring highly unpopular executives
- Forcefully requesting users sign up to download public files, likely in order to inflate user numbers to hide the exodus of users.
- Killing the public folder
There's probably more on this list.
Dropbox has become a joke. And to think you've got Guido working for you...
- JacquerelNew member | Level 2
I understand that public image hosting is not a terribly profitable business, but the public folder was literally the sole purpose I and also almost everyone else I know who uses Dropbox chose the service. This news means that they will cancel their subscriptions and now have to go and investigate this service's competitors to see if any provide the feature you are now dropping, as well as having to put a great deal of work in to now transfer all of their previous hyperlinks to new addresses.
I would deeply urge the owners of Dropbox to reconsider. This sidelines the product from one of great utility to one only particularly suitable for creating backups of important documents, something I would get almost the same utility from if I just bought a cheap external hard drive and carried it around with me.
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