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ae2rigc
10 years agoNew member | Level 2
Ending support of public folder
Just heard from dropbox that support for the public folder is ending.
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As a result, we’ll soon be ending support for the Public folder. Dropbox Pro users will be able to use the Publ...
- 10 years agoLGM - the issue is that people are abusing it and causing issues for everybody by getting the Dropbox domains blacklisted which cause emails to fail and downloads to be blocked by firewalls etc.
In terms of changing the extension, sorry, no idea how you would do that!
khromov
9 years agoHelpful | Level 5
awolff,
I don't see a reason as to why Dropbox would take any action against a script like this. This use case is fully within the scope of the API. With some caching (coming soon™) it will be almost impossible to hit API limits, which will make it more resilient than public folders.
I have some prior experience with the Dropbox API for automated backups and similar, and it's been working very well.
awolff
9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
You may not see a reason why Dropbox would change anything, but then that was also the case thousands of their users. Whether in the digital world or in the physical world, if you don't have physical possession of some valuable item, you don't really own it. If the bank, brokerage or government wants to take all your savings, stocks, etc, they can remotely do so with the stroke of a keyboard or pen. The same is true of your digital goods.
Keep good local backups of everything you value. Storage devices these days are cheap, especially in comparison to some of the valuable, often irreplaceable information that gets stored on them. I do this and also make sure I have the hardware and software which allows the retrieving of the data. Don't trust your data to the cloud.
- narikaa9 years agoHelpful | Level 7
awolff wrote:You may not see a reason why Dropbox would change anything, but then that was also the case thousands of their users. Whether in the digital world or in the physical world, if you don't have physical possession of some valuable item, you don't really own it. If the bank, brokerage or government wants to take all your savings, stocks, etc, they can remotely do so with the stroke of a keyboard or pen. The same is true of your digital goods.
Keep good local backups of everything you value. Storage devices these days are cheap, especially in comparison to some of the valuable, often irreplaceable information that gets stored on them. I do this and also make sure I have the hardware and software which allows the retrieving of the data. Don't trust your data to the cloud.
All well and good, but what is at issue isn't the loss of data at all. It's the arbitrary mass loss of links to data, disseminated throughout the internet over years of input, with NO means of remedying save manually tracing all (if that were at all possible) and restoring them either with one by one convoluted restructuring to circumvent Dopebox's shenanigans or links to Data hosted elsewhere.
- Alastair L.9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Suggest you actually read the posts before issueing sermons awolff. You've completely missed the point. As a paying user of Dropbox I want to know why they cannot continue to support public folder for those using it already, i can't see how it's any skin of their nose to leave it there for those who want it as a legacy feature. I've been using computers since about 1980 and I really haven't come across a comerical decision like this that makes no sense to me at all.
As somebody just explained to you, we have the data still sitting in our Public folders, the point is that all the links on the web will now point to nothing as of September. - Barry F.19 years agoExplorer | Level 4
Exactly.
I'm just gone through one forum (luckily all photos ar ein one thread) and manually update about 60 links.
Meanshile I'm slowly syncing Amazon drive and removing from dropbox.
- hungxd29929 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Why do not they keep the links that exist on the public folder, what are they thinking? I do not understand a big company like Dropbox doing such an act, so disappointed. :( :( :( :(
- Terry R.29 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Just a few days ago I moved all but 5GB of files out of my Dropbox folder in preparation of cancelling my subscription. The countless hours I spent over the years creating student curriculum, lost. The thousands of links in countless blogs, lost. The trust I had in Dropbox, lost. My hard earned money going to Dropbox, lost! Kiss my ASCII Dropbox.
- Kim L.29 years agoNew member | Level 2
I canceled my sub because of this. Good bye.
- Terry P.9 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
This is my first post in this new consolidated thread. In December I posted this brief one:
"Shame on you, Dropbox, for letting down your loyal paying base of users in such cavalier fashion."
I recently had a reminder from DB of the imminent catastrophe when my many hundreds of links created as a Pro user will no longer be accessible. Many, probably most, are video forum posts to help others, with tutorials etc.
I'd appreciate a summary of the latest practical advice on a few technical points please so that I can start preparing. I'm not a programmer or 'techie' but use a macro-writing tool (Macro Express Pro) for many purposes. I'm hoping that I can automate some aspects of the inevitable work due to DB's appalling decision to invalidate my links.
Q1: Is the most sensible first step to make a new folder called say 'Previously Public' and copy all my Public content to it?
Q2: I've seen various suggestions within the 60 pages of this thread about changing the syntax of the resulting links that will be assigned to these. But it seems with occasional contradictions or footnotes about unreliability. What is the latest consensus from experienced users please? I want to get as close to my previous modus operandi as possible. Namely, include a link in a forum post to an image, PDF, video, zip, etc, and be confident that forum users or email recipients will be able to open it. IOW, the no-brainer approach for which I'm currently paying.
Any other practical advice would be much appreciated please.
Terry, UK.
- Terry R.29 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Cancelled mine yesterday as well.
- Chris R.9 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
Terry P. wrote:I'd appreciate a summary of the latest practical advice on a few technical points please so that I can start preparing. I'm not a programmer or 'techie' but use a macro-writing tool (Macro Express Pro) for many purposes. I'm hoping that I can automate some aspects of the inevitable work due to DB's appalling decision to invalidate my links.
All you can do to protect existing Public Folder links, is to re-link each and every one of them (if you can) using the new type of DB link. This is the real Dropbox crime - not to grandfather the existing links out there.
Q1: Is the most sensible first step to make a new folder called say 'Previously Public' and copy all my Public content to it?
No - your existing Public folder is still a valid DB folder, but now it's just like any other. IOW you must get a url for any item in it you want to link to, then change the end from ?dl=0 to ?raw=1
Q2: I've seen various suggestions within the 60 pages of this thread about changing the syntax of the resulting links that will be assigned to these. But it seems with occasional contradictions or footnotes about unreliability. What is the latest consensus from experienced users please? I want to get as close to my previous modus operandi as possible. Namely, include a link in a forum post to an image, PDF, video, zip, etc, and be confident that forum users or email recipients will be able to open it. IOW, the no-brainer approach for which I'm currently paying.
As mentioned, change the ending ?dl=0 (which forces users to go to the DB site to download the content) to ?raw=1 which - on the majority of sites that allow it - will embed the content directly into a webpage just like the old Public links did.
Any other practical advice would be much appreciated please.
Terry, UK.
- Terry P.9 years agoCollaborator | Level 10Thanks Chris.
- Pablo f.69 years agoHelpful | Level 7
My last days, I will cancel on September 1st, I hope you dissatisfied also cancel and say that for this reason
- DolphinNoMore9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I remember I chose dropbox when it first came out because it seemed new, shiny and radical. I also remember seeing lots of dead forum images from stores like photobucket and thinking "I gotta choose wisely - something with integrity that'll last."
Well, the inneviatble has happened and years of forum posting are full of dead links. Either they become:
a) a victim of being a success in a free-market economy (read: advertising, revenue, boards, corporate needs over customers) or
b) a success of being a victim of a free market economy (where altruism, creativity and humanoty never prevails!)
Rant over. Soultion: cut the cord. Sort your own home server (lot easier than it sounds - essentially just leaving a PC on 24hours) + download this app I made + voila! Your very own dropbox out of other peoples' hands.
https://sites.google.com/view/magoarcade/software/whosebox
Of course they will remove this, because they don't like anything that disagrees with them.
- Terry P.9 years agoCollaborator | Level 10Thanks Chris
- hungxd29929 years agoHelpful | Level 6Why do not you keep the existing links in the public folder and close the "copy public link" function, why break that link. WHY WHY?
- BradJohnson9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Terry, I did the same, luckily I've seen an ad for pCloud Public folder functionality, then spent few minutes to figure it out how it works...well, it's the same! :) And the best part - they have Dropbox backup feature, so I simply extracted my Dropbox pub links index file and that's it, for a couple of minutes I've transferred 6GB files...
It's a pity, I'm (was) a huge Dropbox fan and paid user, but some decisions are disputable and unclear for all of us.
There are so many requests to keep existing public folders, so there won't be massive broken images in forums, but anyway Dropbox moved on. I do not even start talking about implementing some easy, but very useful features, which are requested again by thousands of us...but there is a silence. Well, there are other cloud storage providers and they will fill this gap, I highly recommend to check pcloud dot com and see for yourself.
Best,
Image already added - Bodrimir9 years agoNew member | Level 2hi there, actually I will disagree with you - lately I had moved ALL my data on the cloud, except movies and stuff, which I can afford to lose. And I use all my files directly from the cloud folder - way more secure. If you have encrypted folder included in the cloud service, you are protected and you can store all your work, personal documents and so on. Back up, a physical one, is not needed.
As we speak about Public folders, back to the topic, I was just investigating where is best to store my index and files... obviously now I have to lookup for another solution. - Alastair L.9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Wow, Brad is it really possible and that easy to maintain existing links to images? I can't see how that could be done without updating urls in every single post on every forum we ever made?
- Bodrimir9 years agoNew member | Level 2
hi there, actually I will disagree with you - lately I had moved ALL my data on the cloud, except movies and stuff, which I can afford to lose. And I use all my files directly from the cloud folder - way more secure. If you have encrypted folder included in the cloud service, you are protected and you can store all your work, personal documents and so on. Back up, a physical one, is not needed.
As we speak about Public folders, back to the topic, I was just investigating where is best to store my index and files... obviously now I have to lookup for another solution.
- Alastair L.9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Dropbox only keeps files backuped for a month I think (a year at the most). I found that out to my suprise assuming all deleted/corrupted files were backed up forever.
- Alastair L.9 years agoHelpful | Level 6I found this Dropbox alternative comparison site, they want your email for the tabulated comparison data but its all there for free in the long analysis.
https://www.cloudwards.net/top-10-secure-dropbox-alternatives/ - Mark9 years ago
Super User II
Alastair L. wrote:
Dropbox only keeps files backuped for a month I think (a year at the most). I found that out to my suprise assuming all deleted/corrupted files were backed up forever.
Just to give links for that.
Recovery is available for 30 days for non-paying users and up to a year if you have Extended Version History - at the time of deletion.Its one of the reasons I'm very vocal on not using Dropbox as a backup tool. Use something like Carbonite or Backblaze.
- ROMAD9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Alastair L. wrote:
I found this Dropbox alternative comparison site, they want your email for the tabulated comparison data but its all there for free in the long analysis.
https://www.cloudwards.net/top-10-secure-dropbox-alternatives/Or, if you don't want to provide your email address: https://www.cloudwards.net/
comparison/ - BradJohnson9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Alastair L., In Dropbox I hosted my static site with hundreds of files (images, javascript and css).
In the index file the path to the files is relative so there wasn't any problem with that.
I simply moved to pCloud, extracted my backup file and my site was live again! ;)
About embed pictures on forums, yes, this won't work, you have change them somehow.
I don't use this, just host my static site and in forums I post only link to html, so I need to change only one link, not every related image in file.
Hope that makes a sense.Take care,
Image already added - BradJohnson9 years agoHelpful | Level 6
And if you check this comparison you will notice pCloud is the in the top position!
Check the review - https://www.cloudwards.net/review/pcloud/And as far as I know - only they provide Public Folder functionality, same as it was in good old Dropbox...
Image already added - LeoC29 years agoExplorer | Level 4
With the loss of the Public folder's benefits (I pay for Dropbox Pro!) I have a major problem. I use the Public oder to upload score sheets from car shows I run. I then publish links to these score sheets on my web site for attendees to see their's and other's sheets. Obviously I can't name hundreds of people to each individual file for sharing so how dos I set a folder and it's contents so that a simple link to any file will allow anyone to see it, in other words like it was the Public folder.
Now to be clear as this was posted in another forum and the answer given was incorrect then marked solved and closed. I do not want to make a fiolder public so that people need to go to the foilder and choose a file, I need to make all the files "public" so that a link I create in a table will bring the user to the individual file which is an image actually. To show you how it works here is a link to a table that uses the public folder which is about to expire: http://nyautofest.com/NYAF/rulesresultsscores/show-results-and-score/springwestbury.html Toy will notice in the right coplumn a link called SCORE SHEET, that is the file that anypone can see. Once the public folder is dead these will no longer work. I have transfered all over to my server to acomplish the same goal but I don't want to do this, I prefer to keep using Dropbox (or equivalent) as it's easier to just dump new files into the folder. I did payt for this ability after all!
This loss of the public folder is a very bad thing by the way, why not just prevent people from using it to host web sites and leave the rest alone?
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