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Jay
Dropbox Community Moderator
8 years agoDropbox deleted all my files!
No, we didn’t.
Now that the clickbait worked, let’s get into the meat of the article.
I know there’s a lot of frustration about how ‘Dropbox deleted all my files’. I accept it’s hard to lose files, especially if they’re vital for your business, precious family or baby pictures, or even your favorite cryptocurrency digital wallet.
We’ve received emails, calls, and forum threads stating the same as the title. Users are insistent that we did the deletions. However, as other Dropboxers have posted here have said, and while it makes me seem robotic to repeat the same answer, this is the truth:
Dropbox does not delete your files, without any user interaction on them.
The latter part of that sentence is paramount. If you, or someone else with access to those files, deletes them, then Dropbox does what it’s supposed to do, and syncs the deletion to all devices and users.
But, how can my file be deleted?
A few ways actually…Firstly, if you install your Dropbox folder to an external drive, then there are always deletion risks, and I have listed them in a separate thread, which can be found here. However, I’ll repeat them in this thread later for the sake of convenience.Secondly, when I talk about deletions, I literally mean this definition: “Dropbox cannot see the file any more, so the file is deleted”.The question you should be asking is, “Why cannot Dropbox see the file? Where did it go?”Deletions to Dropbox mean any deletions done on the site, the mobile app, third party apps, and of course the desktop app.All of these versions connect to Dropbox in more-or-less same way, meaning that they detect changes, and then change the files on the site, which then syncs to all devices.I know you’ve heard this all before, but this is an incredibly important thing to understand.Syncing only acts if there is something to sync.The app doesn’t do things on its own because it feels like it. If you’re staring at an empty spreadsheet, it’s not going to suddenly populate with your numbers and bar charts. A blank Word document doesn’t begin typing out your final year dissertation without your input.The opposite is also true, a document doesn’t slowly delete characters until you’ve lost all your writing, or formulas, without you touching the keyboard.This is just how Dropbox works, except for entire files and folders. If you’re staring at your Finder or Windows Explorer window blankly for an hour, even outside the Dropbox folder, (almost) nothing will change in front of your eyes, since you’re not using the computer.I mention the ‘almost’ part, since this is the crux of the matter. Narrowing down what made this ‘almost nothing’ to ‘definitely something’ is the goal of this post.
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- PUZZLED_NEWBY3 years agoHelpful | Level 6
No, Dropbox did not delete all my files. Yes, I cancelled Dropbox. No, my files are still there, both on my Online-Cloud-Dropbox account, and on my local
computer.
My question is: If I delete the files on my online Dropbox account, is there a way to cancel any and all unwanted syncing behavior. Beforehand!
If you understand the question and can answer it, you don't even have to read further. Just answer the question.
I simply want to AVOID that the various unpredictable, illogical, unintuitive computer brains and moods of Dropbox get the insane idea of sneaking uninvited onto my computer (the one at home, the local computer, the one I own, the one where the data on it belongs to me and not to you.)
( I just want to provide emphasis on what's important. I do have the impression that when it comes to data, computer geniuses no longer understand the difference between mine and yours. To explain: What's on or in my place is mine, what's on or in your place is yours. This is how it works among civilized people. )
So, is it possible for you to explain in simple, understandable words how I can make sure that you are not deleting data on my computer, and then
laugh, and mock us, saying, hey that's what syncing is. Sorry no, my data on my computer belongs into the "You can't touch this" category.
If you do not like the drift and tone of my questions, that is understandable. I know that I am annoying like Joe Pesci, and that's for a good reason.
If you cannot handle this question forward it to the unknown, unnamed, irresponsible owners of Dropbox.
In case you still do not understand me: Do not delete any data on my local computer!
It's what you call: client-side. To you, the client is a computer. To me, the client is a human being. That human being is me. That's where we differ. Because, just because your program runs rough-shod over the rights of your customers, meaning it disregards and tramples on the rights of customers to the undisturbed use and enjoyment of their data, and just because your EULA absolving your company of all responsibility, does not mean that this is something the customer agrees with. Just like I do not owe you my firstborn, in the same manner I do not give you free reign over my data.
Now do you get it?
Kindly treat my inquiry as a canary in the coal-mine situation. You know, if the canary keels over, there is not enough oxygen in the mine, and possible
even coal gas in there, so.. that makes for an explosive situation. I am not sure if I am right, but I have the feeling I speak for millions of unhappy customers, and/or victims of the software industry. Any politician who runs with the plank: "I am going to make the software industry act responsibly",
will get my vote. The others, they are all paid off. So, if you could treat my question as reasonable and fair, I'd appreciate that.
Sorry that I ruffled your feathers, but you are the only bird available. Plus I told you you don't have to read further, but curiosity got the better of you.
- joecarrow3 years agoHelpful | Level 5
I am very delighted to read this informative thread where I learn some great tips and guides that can helps to avoid unexpectedly deletion of files on Drop box. Thanks to dropbox support team, thanks to everyone!
- Smithad493 years agoExplorer | Level 4Deleting, Editing and Organizing files in your dropbox account.
- PUZZLED_NEWBY3 years agoHelpful | Level 6
That's no answer!
I asked whether Dropbox is entitled, via its EULA and other unexplained rules, to delete files on my personal local computer, or anyone else's computer, if I were to delete files on the ONLINE side of DROPBOX.
The question puts forth a specific conditional. In words easier to understand for you, IF I do this, then WHAT is the consequence?
I do not want mealy-mouthed legal mumbo jumbo, I do not want what I call "uncertain, iffy, maybe, maybe not computer talk"!
Actions have consequences. Non-actions have other consequences. So, either you have a crystal clear answer, or you have nothing.
What do you have?
- PUZZLED_NEWBY3 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Like I said, this is not an answer. Either you KNOW what Dropbox does, or you don't. Moving my question elsewhere is useless.
I therefore assume that you do not know the answer.
Or you just can't be sure, because, guess what, in my experience with Dropbox I find that I cannot be sure either.
I am really surprised that there are no answers to this.
- URog20233 years agoNew member | Level 2
Hi all,
It appears DropBox deleted all my files in 2016 and I was not aware 😞
Is there any way possible to recover my files?
Thanks - Hannah3 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hey URog2023, sorry to hear that your files are gone.
Just for clarification, Dropbox doesn't really delete your files, but there are many reasons why a deletion might happen.
I moved your post to a thread where Jay has listed all the possible reasons why a file might get deleted.
That being said, if the files were deleted back in 2016, I'm afraid they cannot be restored, as they are long gone from our servers.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but if you have any more questions, please let us know.
- JaMaL693 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Thank you for explaining all this, however it does NOT cover all possible cases of deletion. I have lost many files FROM INSIDE MY FOLDERS ON MY PC (hundreds of precious photos, videos, and music files!) and yet NONE of the things you describe happened or were done. I was using Backup and it was on Pause (at only 7% complete) and all I did was try to delete that Backup from my Taskbar interface with Dropbox. Bizarrely, this didn't delete the Backup but I then discovered that it DID delete many of my files not only ON DROPBOX but also ON MY COMPUTER! These files could not be found in my Recycling bin, nor in Dropbox Restore, nor could the deletions be found under the Dropbox Events. I'm praying you guys have some way of restoring these lost files to me! I currently have a Ticket in with support but I'm not optimistic that a happy resolution will be provided. So far they have no idea how this happened 😞 Anyway, I just wanted to say here that you have in fact NOT covered all the possible causes of deletion.
- Megan3 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hi JaMaL69, I hope you're doing well!
Can you share your ticket number reference of your communication with our Support, with me?
Keep me posted!
- JaMaL693 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Hi Megan, so I actually have had two different Tickets on this issue:
First was #22800954 and now it's #22895114
Any help/insight you might also offer would be hugely appreciated!
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