GDPR Compliance for Personal / Free Accounts

I am involved in a similar charity organisation.  I am concerned about the location of the files I hace containing personal information.  From the ICO website I note the following

"At a glance

The GDPR imposes restrictions on the transfer of personal data outside the European Union, to third countries or international organisations.

These restrictions are in place to ensure that the level of protection of individuals afforded by the GDPR is not undermined.

In brief When can personal data be transferred outside the European Union?

Personal data may only be transferred outside of the EU in compliance with the conditions for transfer set out in Chapter V of the GDPR."

Could you give guidance Please

SouthHams

Our legal advisor tells us storing outside the US is not the issue, as long as they comply with the GDPR and provide a DPA

Sorry Ed, you can't state that you will meet all requirements. If you don't provide DPA's, you don't comply with the GDPR for any business using Free or Personal accounts to store personal data. No matter how many security measures you take or privacy policies you write.

One simple agreements would solve that but up to now your company is unwilling to provide this. It seems this is driven more by the desire for more profit than any technical reason, since you state that everything is in place by the GDPR.

I am a Dropbox Plus customer, and I was searching everywhere on dropbox.com for the DPA. I couldn't understand why it was so difficult to find, until i finally found (stumble upon) this thread.

I don't understand why a DPA is not available to ALL (or at least all paying) users, and why it is so difficult to get good valid information regarding aquiring an DPA from Dropbox.

GDPR clearly states that i need a DPA to be compliant with the law and for now the only solution seems to be an upgrade to business. As i really dont think i'll be able to afford that in the long run, I feel kinda let down by a service i have been using and promoting to others for many years :(

It does appear to be a cynical move by companies to force customers to pay more by only providing a DPA for business accounts (which will remain completely under utilised).

I store 1.8GB of data (most of which are PDF raster scans for our purchase ledger. I don't need 2TB, I don't need 3 users, I don't need API access. In fact I need very little of what Dropbox Business provides.

I use Dropbox to store documents in a manner that I can access from multiple locations, that's it. Rather than offering a simple solution to small businesses and sole traders who only need a single user,  Dropbox are saying "Pay for our business solution, that you'll completely under-utilise", or don't use us at all.

I'll be opting for the latter, and not using it at all...

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JB13 wrote:

Actually, Google and Mailchimp are providing DPAs to non-fee paying accounts - they use model contract clauses. So I wonder whether Dropbox could also do this?

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Hi JB13 - could you point me in the direction of the info for a DPA on Google non-fee paying accounts?  It's something I haven't managed to find.

many thanks!

Claire

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Ed wrote:
Hi All

To add to that:
Our Dropbox Terms of Service and Privacy Policy govern Dropbox Basic, Professional and Plus products while our DPA is only applicable for Dropbox’s Business users. Additionally, Dropbox is bound by the language of the Privacy Policy with respect to Dropbox Business customers and the users on a Dropbox Business team.

While Data Processing Amendments are only for Dropbox Business customers, Dropbox will meet the requirements of the GDPR by May 25, 2018 as required across all its services, including Dropbox Basic, Plus, Pro, and Business.

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So, what I take from this is that business users can have a DPA - which allows them to use Dropbox to store personal data they are controllers for.   If you have a basic account - Dropbox will be GDPR compliant in terms of what they have to do to store our details i.e. Dropbox customers data who are from the EU (not personal data that their customers are controllers of).

They are complient as far as individual users are concerned, but not if you use their service for work related items. So Dropbox can not be used by contractors/people who are self employed or small businesses who do not require 3 user accounts.

Dropbox is using server capacity in Germany for business customers.

"Dropbox versucht dem Misstrauen gegenüber den Serverstandort in den USA entgegenzuwirken, indem es Unternehmenskunden beziehungsweise professionellen Nutzern anbietet, deren Daten auf Servern in Deutschland zu speichern (dieses Angebot gibt es allerdings nicht für Privatnutzer). Dropbox nutzt hierfür die Ressourcen der Amazon Web Services im Frankfurter Rechenzentrum." (www.pcwelt.de)

What I am wondering is, if there is GDPR compliance economy and business class at Dropbox. And why Mailchimp is able to provide the necessary DPA.

I was hoping, that Dropbox would find a solution, and not leave its (paying) customers in the cold. My 12-month-plan just extended automatically, and there is obviously no chance to get money refundet, when I cancel the plan now.

After all is Dropbox not the only company offering cloud services (let alone that others do comply to GDPR AND provide DPAs).