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adamschoales
6 years agoHelpful | Level 5
"Smart" sync keeps downloading Online Only Files
I am growing increasingly frustrated with this so called "smart sync" feature Dropbox has recently introduced (or rather forced upon me).
I have a number of files I've brought over to Dropbox using...
Lusil
Dropbox Staff
6 years agoHey busboys45 and onnovanvelzen, thanks for nudging us on this thread.
In general, due to some processes on your computer that may look at files that you may not have manually opened, in order to fulfill those requests, Dropbox syncs the files. Examples of such include backup services, antivirus, recently used file lists or third-party applications that monitor files in general.
Although you can turn local files into online-only by simply right-clicking on them and selecting the Smart Sync option, if there are apps that constantly/persistently look at your files, they may come back as local, just as you described in your posts.
For this reason, try temporarily quitting or disabling apps systematically, until you see that the issue is resolved. The last app that you closed when the behavior in question no longer occurred may be the one performing this action.
Let me know how you get on with this and I'll make sure to get back to you as soon as possible. Cheers!
busboys45
6 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Hello Lusil,
This was exactly it, I finally was able to decipher the pattern. In my case it was "recently used file lists" in QuickTime/Word/Excel/PowerPoint. Each time I would use those apps/programs the files in the recent tab would "localize" and download from Dropbox, which was especially problematic when it came to QuickTime and larger video files. I cleared up all my recent files lists within those apps/programs and I am good to go!
This was exactly it, I finally was able to decipher the pattern. In my case it was "recently used file lists" in QuickTime/Word/Excel/PowerPoint. Each time I would use those apps/programs the files in the recent tab would "localize" and download from Dropbox, which was especially problematic when it came to QuickTime and larger video files. I cleared up all my recent files lists within those apps/programs and I am good to go!
- Hvd2Pilot6 years agoNew member | Level 2
Wait a minute Lucil, this is not a "fix", clearing out recent items is a bandaid solution. In fact, Quicktime recents don't get cleared. To clear the files, go into Quicktime | File | Open Recent, wait for the files to download!!!, then select Clear Menu. Does, or will, Dropbox have a permanent solution for this? Any plans in the works?
Respectfully,
- bigc2006 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Same happening to me. I'm going to run out of disk space at this rate. I feel like I'm fighting the machine downloading against my will.
Please help.
Chris
- WDPandP6 years agoHelpful | Level 5
I am having the same issue.
I want to be able to open files (online only files) visible in File Explorer, alter them, then save them and they just stay online. Rather than downloading locally every time.
*Edit* - Thank you Jay (Dropbox Staff below comment). All you have to do is edit the file in File Explorer (this downloads it to your computer automatically). Once you are done editing, you can simply right click the file or folder in File Explorer and chose 'Make online-only'.
- Jay6 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hi WDPandP, what you're describing is different to what other users are experiencing.
When you attempt to edit an online-only file, the Dropbox desktop application needs to make the file local first, to then open it in the appropriate app to edit it. Otherwise, it wouldn't be possible to edit a file that wasn't on your computer.
When the file is saved, it doesn't automatically return to being online-only, so you'll need to change it manually in Explorer each time.
Hope this helps to clarify matters!
- bigc2006 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Apologies Jay, but what is your answer to the question at the top of this thread? I am also experiencing files wanting to download when they haven't been asked to. Not even if the files are in recent items, or links within a document. I'm experiencing Dropbox wanting to
download every Keynote presentation I have in Dropbox. Why would this be the case?
I do suggest you take this seriously because it's real and I'm technically profficient to know how Dropbox works with linked files. This isn't that.
Chris
- bigc2006 years agoHelpful | Level 6I figured out the source of my problem. I’m using MacPaw’s CleanMyMac which the developer has admitted has a bug with Dropbox.
I found their admittance on Dropbox’s own knowledge base from 2017 and asked MacPaw if it had been solved or was still a problem. They told me it had been fixed but has since resurfaced.
Since this exists on your own knowledge base, and is a known bug, you should probably suspect something like this for the future when people are telling you Dropbox is automatically downloading files without being asked.
I believe it’s something to do with the software re-indexing the drive and pulling down Apple’s productivity files (Keynote, Pages, etc).
Hope that helps someone else. - Jay6 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Could you link the URL for the help center article this is referring to, or is it a post on the community? This way we can keep it in this thread to help other users who might be experiencing this behavior.
- WDPandP6 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Thank you for your help.
That makes sense now :)
I hope everyone else sorts the thread issue.
Regards,
Will
- bigc2006 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Here is the original thread where MacPaw admits there is a bug with CleanMyMac and Dropbox Smart Sync:
I have contacted their support to see if this has been fixed yet (since 2017) and they tell me it has resurfaced and they are working on it. In the meantime, turn off or quite the CleanMyMac menu (from the Mac toolbar) restart your Mac and it should stop Dropbox downloading all your Keynote files. Until MacPaw fix this, you can't really use the menu bar. Not sure about the main app though.
Hope tht helps.
- sirdaryl5 years agoNew member | Level 2
Suffered this problem last year - it is definitely linked to CleanMyMac.
It suddenly started after no issues for about 4 months of happy use. I believe it was after a CMM update.
At the time their Support said that they could not re-create the issue so they could not deal with it. So it's good to see that they are working on it now.
You can quit the control panel to temporarily fix it, and yet still use the app fine.
But as soon as you reboot, or... CMM triggers an auto-update, then you are in trouble again.
Woke one day to see I had 1Mb of HDD remaining..!
I uninstalled it in the end.
Shame, as it's very good at what it is made for. But I couldn't trust it again not to ruin my life.
- Chris C5 years agoExplorer | Level 4
I do not have clean my mac installed on my computer.
I’ll have to keep an eye on this, but I believe a download was triggered recently by opening a file in OneDrive also. I’ll have to see if I can recreate it. I wouldn’t expect another application to trigger a dropbox download.
- sirdaryl5 years agoNew member | Level 2
Interesting - my investigations, before I gave up, were pointing towards the 'recent file' lists.
Have you tried clearing the lists for the apps causing issue - eg. Quicktime?
Apologies if I've joined behind the curve here..!
- suebattel5 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I'm having the same problem and it's maddening. I reset files using SmartSync to be stored in the cloud only, then when I start work for the day I'm frequently bogged down with 60,000-some files attempting to be downloaded to my computer. I go back and mark them again as cloud only, and that only sticks for a day or so.
I'm on a PC running Windows, so no Clean My Mac or Quicktime even exist as is mentioned in some of the posts here. I have no backup software and no antivirus software running.
Sometimes SmartSync doesn't even appear as an option any longer—neither at dropbox.com when clicking on the ... to the right of the file name, nor does any green checkmark or cloud image show up on the files/folders. That's happening right now so I can't even reset the correct files to cloud only.
- Deanna35 years agoNew member | Level 2
Same exact notes as the June note. Any updates on this?? It's driving me crazy.
- David_aus5 years agoHelpful | Level 5
I'm also having the very annoying, distressing and fraught problem with the so-called "Smart Sync" downloading files that I've designated as "on-line only" It is a repeat problem and takes many hours for the files to be returned to online only. Then it all happens all over again.... and again .... and again .....
This happens both on my laptop and desktop, both Windows 10 with Trend Micro antivirus.
I've been with Dropbox for quite a few years now, and previously found it to be excellent. However, with "Smart Sync" the ball has been dropped and there are other cheaper products that don't seem to have this serious error.
I've seen suggestions on the chat about individuals going to great lengths to find the reason for this Dropbox software malfunction, and then operate unwieldy work arounds. I've tried a few things, to no avail, and I'm just at the point where I'm not prepared to keep paying for a product that doesn't work as specified and causes me serious angst.
I can't, for the life of me, understand why Dropbox doesn't fix this malfunction in its software. Anybody know if Dropbox is even trying to address this problem?
- Walter5 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hey David_aus, thanks for joining the discussion here.
Based on your description, I'm assuming that your antivirus program is what's causing your Online Only files to become local again, probably when it scans and/or indexes them.
Could that be the case here, David? - David_aus5 years agoHelpful | Level 5
Hi Walter,
It could be the antivirus program.
If so, I could change the settings so that the files I have in Dropbox aren't scanned -but I don't know the security implications.
I don't have the time or patience to keep trying to find the reason for the Dropbox malfunction. I've had Dropbox for quite a while and haven't had this problem until I started using Dropbox on my limited hard drive 256GB laptop. It demonstrated that "smart sync" doesn't work in real world environments. Others on this blog have also had the problem.
I use One Drive for another thing that I do, and don't have this problem.
Dropbox has always been a bit clunky because it sometimes doesn't clearly tell you what it is doing, or to find the right place to click for a common action. It reminds me of when VHS recorders needed an expert professional to make it do what you wanted.
I'd like you to refer this to someone who can fix Dropbox so that if you select "off line" it means that the file or files stay off line. I know it can be done.
David
- dries14 years agoHelpful | Level 5
I'm running Windows 11 on a Dell laptop, and I have the same issue.
Every time I:
* run a virus scan via Trend Micro, OR
* open a microsoft office program, OR
* open a folder via Windows Explorer
Dropbox starts downloading ALL the files in the folder, and for virus scanning, all 3TB of data from my dropbox. DESPITE me selecting 'online only' MULTIPLE times before.
Surely this is a fundamental design flaw on dropbox's product, and should be fixed ASAP.
I await a solution please.
Thanks
- hitammysue4 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Definitely seems like a fundamental design flaw. After almost a decade of loving DropBox, I'm ready to move 2TB of data to Microsoft One Drive. I can't take the instability of the Synch function. I want all my data on-line and only a few folders local. I'm technically proficient and searching for solutions to the constant issue of Dropbox trying to download all my files locally has become a waste of my time and is a drain to all my local storage. Microsoft One Drive here I come ... !
- BCZE4 years agoHelpful | Level 6I’m having the same issue on Windows. My Dropbox files are all set to be online only, but for some reason, the ENTIRE thing keeps re-downloading to my computer and suddenly I’ve lost a a terabyte of space on my hard drive. Then when I make it online only again, it all re-syncs and I get a notice from my internet company that I’m making out my data. It’s so maddening, but my clients love sharing files through Dropbox so I’m stuck trying to figure out the why.
- BCZE4 years agoHelpful | Level 6Exactly my situation. Did you ever solve it?
- Megan4 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hi BCZE, I hope you're doing well!
Have you checked your antivirus (on any other third-party app) to make sure it doesn't interfere with your Dropbox files? Because a third-party app scanning or indexing these files, could cause what you described.
Keep me posted!
- dries14 years agoHelpful | Level 5
I find it unacceptable that an anti-virus is causing the issues with dropbox.
My Google Drive, icloud and OneDrive does not have any issues working with my anti-virus.
Secondly, I can not and will not turn off an anti-virus because dropbox can't solve this issue.
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