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Jon C.10
3 years agoCollaborator | Level 8
Dropbox removing external disk support for Mac users
In case anyone's unaware... if you're a Mac user storing your Dropbox on an external drive, you'll shortly lose that ability.
https://help.dropbox.com/installs/macos-support-for-expected-changes
Just confirmed this with DB support (see below). Gutted - been with Dropbox for years and our entire video team flow is based around it 😕
>Hi there, I read today that you are scrapping the ability to store the Dropbox folder on external disks, on OSX. I'd like to ask more about this please.
> Hello Jon, and thank you for contacting Dropbox Support. My name is Joseph, and I will be more than happy to look into your request, right away.
That is correct Jon, as part of the Dropbox for macOS update, the Dropbox folder must be located in ~/Library/CloudStorage.
>This is a showstopper for us, and will mean we have to move to another service. We have a large distributed team using DB for video work, no way it'll fit within internal drives.
Is there a workaround?
> I totally understand and I apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, there is no workaround on this as changing the location of your Dropbox folder is no longer supported by macOS.
>This change doesn't seem to have hit us yet - we're running a variety of machines inc Ventura
What will trigger its enforcement? Can we stay on an earlier OS or Dropbox version?
>The updates happening automatically every time the Dropbox app is restarting, for example if your device never restarts it should maintain the older version but we can't guarantee full functionality on older versions of the application.
>So what will happen - if we have a Dropbox folder on an 8TB drive and a tiny internal drive - will it try to clone stuff across and eat up the space? What's the mechanism?
>That's right, it will try to move the content on your internal drive until it has no space and gives you an error.
>Is Smartsync still supported? I.e. will it move stuff to being online only if it won't fit?
>It is, however it is now known as online-only.
- Hi Everybody,We’re excited to share that external drive support for Dropbox for macOS on File Provider is now available for testing as a beta feature. This is available to some users today and will be available to additional users on a rolling basis. In order to be eligible to test this feature, please follow the instructions in this Help Center article.Keep in mind that participation in beta programs is subject to the certain terms and conditions. There are certain additional participation requirements:
- This beta is only available to US-based users
- You must be on macOS 15 beta
- You must have an external drive that is APFS formatted and encrypted
Please let me know if you have any further questions!
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- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
So I turned on the HD Backup Beta feature and my Macbook M1 and it works.
Thanks for the heads-up guys, never used this feature before as I thought it wouldn't work very well. But it does now, so that can be useful. Dropbox really improved the Backup panel with all the disks available and many preferences which didn't exist back in the days. Makes it smooth now.
However I see two potential issues:
1. When I add additional contents (sub-folder and/or files) in the external disk folder, nothing seems to happen. I have to exit and relaunch Dropbox for the Sync to start. Is this normal? Does it wait for a few minutes before syncing? There's no manual 'Sync' button so I see this as a huge annoyance.
2. There's no Green mark in front of the external disk 'Folder' just the same way as it is in the local Dropbox folder. Quite annoying too since you don't really know when a particular external drive folder/file has been finished its sync.
- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
Okay it's been 15 minutes and my external disk Dropbox folder still doesn't update the new content.
Useless then.
- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
Okay so it turns out external storage sync occurs every 60 minutes, and not in real time with like local disks. Fair enough. I didn't know what. That should be more explicit, instead of hiding this important information in the FAQs.
- psalcal3 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
Thanks for checking that out.. the big question for me, sounds like it will backup from an external drive which is helpful, but will it actually SYNC to another external drive if necessary? That would be a killer workaround you may have found if so.
- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
Thanks for the info. Well I hope for Dropbox you won't ditch them for 1700 USD a year that'd be a shame 🙂
I have an extra question: with your 6 user system and unlimited plan, do you see a green tick on your external disk folders/files? How do you sync your 30-40TB of data across your individual computers and as a team, is it a local access for each of the 6 users from their computers to a large disk or RAID system?
I can't see the green tick on my shared external disk (I see the green tick only on my local /Dropbox folder) but the sync works though. Do you guys all see a green ticket in your Business system?
- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
- jmeredi23 years agoHelpful | Level 6shinbeth
Yes, all users see the green check when synced, or the blue sync icon as files are syncing. We use it for video editing but also for production documents. So for editors, they have the entire DropBox synced locally, where as a producer might only have the smaller document folders. It’s a great system so I’m hoping they continue to support it. But I’m on a trial at Sync.com now and it seems to offer a very similar solution, for just slightly cheaper, and does still allow for syncing to an external drive. - shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
Ok thanks jmeredi2 noted. So you're the only one having the entire Business folders synced, right? And the 5 other members only have a few TBs each? How do you store 30/40TB locally yourself?
- shinbeth3 years agoExperienced | Level 13
So it turns out https://www.dropbox.com/backup/all shows the sync status and the tick there instead, I'm cool with that.
Pretty useful feature indeed Dropbox to be able to sync external drives.
Please don't change this feature on Mac please 🙂 the people here are right and I fully support them.
- KyleKoch3 years agoHelpful | Level 6
jmeredi2 I tested sync.com and while it is ⅔ of the cost for unlimited and has point-to-point encryption (which is far superior than what DB offers), it is much slower for up/down xfer. I suspect its partly because of the encryption key, but that's only a guess. They capped out at 40Mbps I think. Possibly much less. Might have been as low as 4Mbps. Can't remember exactly what the limit was but it would have taken over a year to upload our assets vs 2 months for DB.
Their security protocol is great tho. Government's have confirmed its okay to use at this time. DB is not an approved supplier tho.
We have 2.5Gb internet here so it wasn't an issue with our local connection.
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