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paulieb
5 years agoNew member | Level 2
"Online Only" files now show file sizes of "zero KB" ???
About a week ago, for some reason all my "online only" files in my dropbox computer app suddenly changed the file sizes from the actual sizes to "zero KB"... I have two different Mac computers runni...
paulhoepner
4 years agoExplorer | Level 3
Hello Megan, thanks for getting back to me! I am in contact with dropbox support about this, I have forwarded all information to them. Here is my current ticket: https://www.dropbox.com/support/ticket/19480527
If you can also have a look at it, that would be great!
If you can also have a look at it, that would be great!
Megan
Dropbox Community Moderator
4 years agoHi paulhoepner, awesome, thanks for that!
Don't worry, I have passed my comments to your ticket number, for the agent to see. If you have any additional info, comments or questions, feel free to respond back to the ticket.
Thank you!
- battiman3 years agoExplorer | Level 4
paulhoepner How did it go for you? Was it resolved?
I just helped a colleague out and updated her OS to Ventura. After the update, I noticed all the online only files in Dropbox were showing a file size of 0 bytes. I got in touch with support and the nightmare started all over again with a "support agent" claiming this was "expected behaviour" yada yada. I will give them a call tomorrow but I am not looking forward to it.
So can you tell me if you also are on Ventura? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. I am still happy on my machine running Monterey!
- Jay3 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Hi battiman, if a file is online-only, it means it doesn't take up any physical space on your machine, so it's normal behavior for the file to be zero bytes?
In order to understand what you're expecting, please let me know what you wish to see for files not physically taking up storage on your computer?
- battiman3 years agoExplorer | Level 4
I am not sure if you're trolling me here 🙂 I assume you have read the thread? It makes me crazy when you have to explain that this is NOT expected behavior to one of Dropbox's own employees! But you are in luck, I will explain it to you so you can be of better assistance if and when someone else ends up with you as their support guy.
Here's a screenshot of a folder on a machine running Monterey:
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As you can see, only one file is set to offline (the top one) and the rest is online only. All of them however display the logical file size, as is expected behavior. This is the way it has worked since Dropbox implemented this feature. All is okay here. Do you understand? The files with the little cloud icon are not actually on my hard drive, these are just placeholders which takes up next to no space. The placeholder's file size is of no interest to me.
Now here's a screenshot of a folder on a machine running Ventura:
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See the difference? All the files set to online only show the placeholders physicial file size (i.e. 0 bytes) and not the files actual/logial size. This is the bug. This is NOT expected behavior.
Now, unless you have a way of solving this for me, I would greatly appreciate if you just push this forward to someone else who actually understands the basic functions of the software you are supporting.
- Jay3 years ago
Dropbox Community Moderator
Online-only files should always show the physical file size of zero bytes in Finder and Explorer. If they showed the logical size, then this would be considered not normal behavior. Only files available offline would show the size of the file on the disk.
- battiman3 years agoExplorer | Level 4
EDIT: I just now noticed that the screenshots were removed for some reason. You just have to take my word for it.
So you are basically telling me that of the two screenshots I posted, the one from the machine running Monterey is displaying some kind of bug/unexpected behavior when the files display the logical file size and not the physical size?
Also, the support agents on "the advanced team" (or whatever you call it) were all simply confused when they wrote back to me in March 2022:
Thanks for getting back to me with this screenshot.
No I can confirm that this definitely shouldn't happen.And the other guys who helped me solve this after a long period of troubleshooting this - as you call it - "expected behavior" must have been extremely confused when they finally admitted it was a bug on your end:
The engineering team identified an issue and have made some changes on the backend, which should resolve the problem you were experiencing.
I suggest you read this article also:
https://help.dropbox.com/sync/make-files-online-only
Pay special attention to the section: "Why do online-only files still appear to take up space?”
You are simply wrong. That is ok. But I want you to admit it before we go on.
- battiman3 years agoExplorer | Level 4
So an update to whoever finds this thread...
The issue, that was considered and handled as a bug last year, is now considered as a drawback of Ventura. The developers at Dropbox does not intend to try and solve it and you get no help from the support team. I understand that Dropbox is in the hands of Apple and if there is nothing to be done , I guess that's it. I can only prey the issue has been resolved once I will be forced to upgrade from my current version (Monterey).
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