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Shawn B.14
6 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Dropbox is stuck syncing after an update, what can I do?
I have the "Dropbox Plus" subscription and I run the client on 4 computers.
Yesterday (Monday, 13-Jan-2020) I signed onto my desktop (which is always on) and has a full local sync of my dropbox that a number of new files added Saturday had big red Xs on them -- JPEGs I had scanned Saturday and which were in sync to my laptop on Sunday morning.
I checked my other workstation (also always on) and Dropbox wasn't even running. I launched it, and it pretty immediately ran a "one time update". Once this completed, it appeared to go into a full-on sync mode, indexing thousands of files and downloading thousands more (my total dropbox footprint is ~17k files, 600 GB of data). This has been running for 24 hours without making any apparent progress, despite the drive being materially in sync with my first workstation (using BeyondCompare to check). Plus not enough system activity to indicate any actual indexing or download was taking place.
I paused workstation 2, uninstalled dropbox on workstation 1 and reinstalled it. Just prior to this, workstation 1 was "stuck" uploading 2 files and downloading 7 files, which it had been on since last night.
Workstation 1 now shows "indexing" for around 8k files and "downloading" for 9k files. Trouble is, Resource Monitor doesn't show disk activity or network activity for that kind of activity.
What's going on? I was perfectly in sync as of Saturday morning and over the last 24 hours it's gotten bad.
Oddly, my laptop ("laptop 1") is apparently fine, showing more or less normal sync status as far as I can tell (and is on build 88.4.172).
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- Server_Align6 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
Shawn B.14 wrote:
I'm torn between two theories, one of which touches on yours:1) it isnt this thats an edge case at best
2) the issue is not the DB server back end sync
3) Dropbox choose to replace the meta detail data base on the files
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Dropbox\instance1 used to contain some big files containing all the meta data, now a folder C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Dropbox\instance1\sync has appeared that contains it.
They chose to not migrate the database but to build it from scratch, I know this as my near 10GB signature file has vanished and a new one is being built with a new name.
However (A) that means it stuck doing a full resync on the 500K+ of files I have and (B) the the full resync on thayt sizze file set CRASHES THE DROPBOX APP. (C) even if it did not crash my resync time is counted in days to weeks and the result of that is unsynced machines and machines that end up with plenty of conflicts on each and every file changed elsewhere and not yet reindexed locally, as the result will be a conflicted copy.
- Shawn B.146 years agoHelpful | Level 6I’d love to know what was behind this, both the rationale and the actually technology changes. The lack of a clear change log or transparency on what changed and why bugs me.
- Shawn5996 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Thank you @PatWard for the advice to hold the space bar to see the buttons! It took a couple of tries and then I got them. Been syncing 32,000 + files for a week now.
- PatWard6 years agoHelpful | Level 7
Yeah no worries. I discovered it by accident .. something resting on my space bar ...
Mine seems to of indexed about 2-3000 files over the last week .. which I suppose is progress.
Question to the forum about Symlinks .. I've never knowingly created one .. does dropbox do it itself? When, for example, you migrate it to a different hard drive?
Thanks
- Fiona6 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hi everyone!
PatWard the Dropbox desktop app doesn't have the ability to create symlinks for your files.
However, if your Dropbox folder was renamed, the Dropbox desktop app will create a hidden folder with the old folder name ("Dropbox"). This is called a “symlink.” This hidden folder points to the new Dropbox folder from the old location path.
If your computer is set to show hidden files and folders, this symlink may look like a secondary Dropbox folder on your computer but it isn't.
:pushpin: Notes for hidden symlink folders.
- Some programs on your computer may depend on the original Dropbox folder path name ("Dropbox") to function properly and so if your main folder has been renamed it is best to leave the hidden symlink folder untouched.
- The symlink folder does not use extra disk space on your computer or your Dropbox account.
- Deleting files in the symlink Dropbox folder will also delete the original file but deleting the symlink folder iself won't delete the main renamed Dropbox folder.
You can mention me, or other Dropboxers and we will be happy to participate in your discussion more.
Cheers!
- PatWard6 years agoHelpful | Level 7
Thanks Fiona, thats a bit clearer. A bit. But my patience is waring thin now.
Daphneasked me to move to email a week ago and so far there's been as good as silence. I'm just left waiting wondering whats happening.
For a problem that seems to be of your own making I'd of expected better.
- Shawn5996 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I switched from Google Drive to Dropbox 16 months ago, because Google Drive maxed out my CPU, duplicated folders and files, took forever to scroll files, and more. The particulars are at https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Google-Drive-so-slow-for-downloading-and-uploading
Dropbox was a breath of fresh air. Low CPU use, fast uploads and downloads, fast indexing, fast scrolling through many files online. I was very happy to pay double the cost per terabyte at the time.
Now, I wonder if Dropbox is starting to move away from developing smaller-scale online backup like Google Drive did. If so, from a few decades' experience with software, the only solution I know of would be to move to a new company who wants new customers needing good backup solutions.
- Server_Align6 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
FOR Anyone witrh the NEW relase that is now STUCK syncing/restarting/limbo
OK what appears is the database DB uses to monitor your files was "updated" and the process requires a reindex. For reasons unknown thios doesnt seem to work anywhere near well enough.
Here was my solution to get around it.
1) UNLINK the PC, restart
2) rename the DROPBOX folder OLDBOX
3) LINK the PC, during signup, select to selectively sync NOTHING!
4) Once upto date (with no files present), change your settings to what they used to be, like save space settings etc, and apply
5) Once upto date (should be near instant), change the selective sync to what it used to be, and apply.
6) shutdown the DB app
7) move the content of the saved folder OLDBOX over top the the current dropbox content
8) start the DB app again
9) await it to sync/check/update (takes a while but is a **bleep** load faster now)
Its STEP 5 that I think helps, when you have cloud only files I expect you get all the reindex data sent to you from the dropbox servers as you dont have the files so cant reindex them. Then when you replace those with the original files and restart the app, it sees a real file and compares the content to the index data, and finds it the same so moves on. This appears alot quicker than reindexing the original files and then comparing it to the dropbox servers index data, its likely just a timing or bulk activity thing, that you get sent all the index data at once when you change the selective sync rather than fetching it yourself form the file then comparing that to the servers one file at a time.
I just got a server with 2+TB in 700k+ of files back up.
While it was processing a few files were updated rempotely and the syustem dealt with them as they appeared, likely on a sperate execution thread.
Hope this helps someone at least!
- AngstromZA6 years agoHelpful | Level 6
I'm starting to wonder if this is a memory adressing bug.
The DropBox app is listed as a 32 bit app on Windows 10 and I've noticed that while 'Starting...' or, if I'm lucky and get to 'Syncing...', the memory usage climbs up and up until it gets to the high 3GBs.
A 32 bit app can't address more than 4GB of memory as I undertand it so I'm curious if the crashing happens as the OS attempts to allocate more memory than the DB APP can actually handle.
Just my thoughts.
- Fiona6 years ago
Dropbox Staff
Hello again everyone.
PatWard I located your case and it is no longer with Daphne, this is why you don't have a response. The case is escalated from what I see and I just added a note with feedback and raised the priority. You should have a response soon. Keep me posted.
Server_Align Thank you for your participation.
AngstromZA I believe this article will help you understand more about this issue you are reporting: Why is the Dropbox desktop app using so much memory or CPU on my computer?
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